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Smoker vows to risk jail rather than pay litter fine

Tuesday 15th November 2011, posted by forest

A mother from Pontypridd in Wales says she would rather go to prison than pay a fine of nearly £500 for dropping a cigarette outside her home.

Tracey John, 48, was fined £350 by local magistrates plus £100 costs after refusing to pay a £75 on the spot penalty.

Responding to the verdict, she said she had no intention of paying the fine, insisting she had been harshly treated.

She said: "I'll go to jail if I have to - there is no way I'm paying the fine for dropping a fag end outside my own front door.

"It is a question of freedom - I picked up the cigarette after I dropped it. It was outside my own house in my own street.

Rhondda Cynon Taf Council said it would not tolerate littering.

Nigel Wheeler, the council's service director for streetcare, said: "Eco-criminals will not be tolerated.

"The illegal disposal of cigarette related waste is the biggest single problem throughout the area.

"As well as creating unsightly environmental conditions, the offence can attract vermin.

"The streetcare enforcement team will do all in its power to eradicate this type of behaviour."

Source: BBC News (15 November 2011)

Comments:

clif e
Posted on
This have nothing to do with littering, afterall the woman picked up the cigarette but, all this have to do with is more harrassment of people who smoke. A warning would have been sufficent.
JAmes Hart
Posted on
What does this have to do with smoking? Admittedly the fine sounds steep. But just because it's a cigarette doesn't ,mean there is an Anto-smoking issue here.
Tony
Posted on
So we are now ECO Criminals, unbelievable.
Cigarette end attract Vermin, no doubt called the Street care enforcement team .
Christopher Hugh Ivey
Posted on
If the illegal disposal of cigarette related waste is the biggest single problem they are a fortunate council. Others are struggling with financial cutbacks,crime and the health service.
stuart gibson
Posted on
We should not toleraste any form of littering, be it fag ends, paper bags, uneaten food, or whatever. Anyone caught litteriung should be fined stiffly.
peter irlenborn
Posted on
You are of an outdated mind-set, arguing for smokers' rights; cigarettes are a toxic dump on fire. You should need an exemption from the environmental protection agency to burn the 599 additives in the tobacco syrup added to cigarettes. Citation; Senator Henry Waxman in the US Congress Hearings with the 5 major presidents of the US tobacco companies, as presented to him in a 50 page report containing those combined additives, some 20 years ago. Again; CIGARETTES ARE A TOXIC DUMP ON FIRE.
Non smokers have a right to BREATH FRESH AIR; that right supersedes smokers' right to pollute the air. Get with it. We are past your antiquated steam engines and your industrial revolution of over a hundred years ago. We all need clean unpolluted air.
Peter Irlenborn
Simon
Posted on
The feeling I get about this are 2-fold.
On one hand it seems a did she-didn't she story. She claims to have picked the butt up, but later we are told this was not until after the fine had been issued. Given the spokesman's claim of "issuing a fine was a "last resort"." (bbc site linked above), I would hope that if she'd picked it up straight away then that would have been the end of it.
On the other hand I have to wonder how much of this is the media taking a "story" and running with it, even egging the lady on. This article is about littering rather than smoking, I agree with James when he said what's this got to do with smoking. It could have been a plastic cup or paper bag and it wouldn't have touched this site and I wonder the press at all.
All said it's a massive fine and who the heck is the 'victim' that is adding a further £15?

Yes, I'm a smoker, but 'gasp', litter annoys me. I'm not sure how much of this story, if any, if anti-smoking per se, but to start bandying phrases like 'ECO-criminal' about does no-one any favours and how soon before people start thinking they may as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb? The 'official' (how I hate the growth in power to fine being given to any and everyone) was investigating a fly tipping, next time someone asks her about something like that, she's now going to just turn her back, thus the big society becomes a little smaller.

@peter
Until smoking is made illegal in the UK, there is every right to argue for smokers' rights, note it's not even equal rights. I do hope you don't drive or you are adding to a far more serious pollution than any smoker. I hope you do not heat your home or water with anything other than self generated energy.
chris
Posted on
Simon: I'm sure Peter's contributions to pollution are "different" from smokers' mainly because they are his, and he's obviously a perfect little fellow, isn't he?
Buffie
Posted on
If your aritcels are always this helpful, "I'll be back."
Logical
Posted on
Peter,
Unless you are perfect and have no faults , habits or addictions, you have NO RIGHT AT ALL to pick on other people. PUT THAT IN A PIPE AND SMOKE IT.
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